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 Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: Judaism... Sorting it Out |
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Anybody care to give me their take on Judaism? I have done quite a bit of research on the Bible in the past, and I realize there are a lot of truths, half- truths, and outright lies within its pages. I have been trying to sort through the garbage for years, with not as much success as I would like.
Tonight, I finished a book called "Brotherhood of Darkness" by Dr. Stanley Montieth, which was very good. If you are unfamiliar, it is a book about secret societies and who runs them. What dawned on me after reading it is that, apparently, the twisted elite actually worship Lucifer, and it is the dogma of "The Prince of Darkness" which shapes their policies that have stayed so consistent for millenia. This came as an epiphany of sorts, because I guess I assumed them to be atheists. Why would anybody want to worship Satan? It makes sense though, because it explains how there can be so many facets and fronts, groups and sub- groups, so many fancy "isms", and they still manage to gradually march their agenda down everybody's throats.
Then, of course, there is the issue of anti- semitism. Why do the elite constantly pick on the Jews? It's been going on for centuries... are they somehow threatened by them? I suspect the Luciferians hate everybody that isn't one of them, but you'd have to admit the Jews have taken a special place in their hearts.
I don't know how people may feel about Christianity, but based on my research, there is more ancient "Mystery Religion" symbology to it than you can shake a stick at. I came to suspect that Christianity is a deliberate corruption of the Jewish belief system, which made me systematically question everything in the Bible. I don't want to get too in depth on that now, because I'd like to delve into the root of this problem.
Without getting too specific (because I'd end up writing all night), the Old Testament is full of stories that have obvious ties to myths from other cultures. What do you think happened? Was Judaism based on truth at some point and corrupted through the years, infiltrated by "Mystery Religion" hitmen? Or is it mostly just B.S.? What do you know about YHWH, or the tetragrammaton? There is an academic theory commonly referred to as "JPED", which reasons that there have been four different authors, or mutations, of the Hebrew manuscript throughout the ages. They are described as the Jahwist, Priestly, Elohist, and Deuteronomist, respectively. The four authors represent a significant change in emphasis-- or at least style-- of the context. Recalling that theory and bouncing it off of the modern prevalence of Luciferian lies and propaganda has me thinking about all this again...
I haven't been sure what all to believe for a while now, but I haven't stopped investigating. Ten years ago, I considered myself Christian. Then, I began to lean more towards Judaism. Now, I've got my faith stripped down to this: I believe there is a Creator for a number of reasons, and I believe there are universal laws that govern all things both physical and spiritual. I think that, most likely, there is some form of afterlife because I believe in cosmic justice. Too many wicked people get away with evil deeds and die unpunished-- at the expense of many good people who die, never having recieved their due. I have to believe that everything will be made right in the end, otherwise, what meaning would good or evil have? What would make love better than hate, if they both fade into nothingness in the end?
Anyways, I don't mean to turn this into a religious conversation necessarily, as I realize this is potentially sensitive subject matter. I guess I'm just hoping to hear a perspective different from what I've heard before. Any hint would be great, because I really need to get some answers soon...
Peace,
Tip
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When discussing religion, particularly the monotheistic (Abrahamic) religions, it is not only important to understand the doctrine of its adherents and the fact that these doctrines are based on a set of ritualistic group behaviors, but also to take a look at the fundamental roots of these religions and how they came into existence from a number of different perspectives.
Most discussions of religion seem to be limited to exploring the religions through their own texts, i.e. trying to understand Judaism by studying the Pentateuch and Talmud, and trying to understand Christianity by studying the Gospels or Epistles. This approach can be somewhat limiting and circular in logic: “this is what the Jews believe because it says it here, and it says it here because this is what the Jews believe”. Not only is this approach limited, but it is deceptive when one realizes that religions have been surreptitiously used as tools for manipulating the masses.
This is not to say that the teachings contained within these religions do not point to the truth, but the establishments ostensibly built around these religions are designed to control the minds and behaviors of its adherents.
As Daniel Pouzzner elaborates in his Architecture of Modern Political Power:
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| From the perspective of a political scientist, religions are social systems in which there are (1) adherents, who are bound together by beliefs some of which are believed only because they are taught by fiat from social authority (chiefly, with spoken or written words), (2) teachers, who wield social authority, were previously taught the beliefs, and generally adhere to them with greater fervor and sophistication than do ordinary adherents, and (3) a handful of ideological originators, who break with some of the orthodoxies of their own time, and form and teach, as infallible truths, beliefs at least some of which their minds have concocted either as a conscious fiction or as a delusion that, for reasons of accidental illusion or mental defect, they mistake for reality. Modern institutional science would be a religion, were it not for its omission of the conceit of infallibility — a conceit that cannot, of course, be rationally defended. |
He goes on to indicate that those who refuse to obey are labeled “heretics” – a term of Greek etymology that is synonymous with “freely choosing” one’s beliefs – as opposed to “orthodoxy”, or believing there is only one "right" way to believe. In relation to the frequencies of the lower fourth dimension, the human mind is programmed to cooperate with social authority figures, whether it is a religious leader, a political leader, your teacher at school, or your boss at work. This is why religions have been successful at controlling human thought at a group level, and furthermore why it has become commonplace for groups of one orthodoxy to scapegoat, or externalize blame for particular incidents or events, to a group of a different orthodoxy.
Brother Tip, it seems to me you are looking to go one step further and understand the roots of religion in light of the many layers of disinformation, especially with regard to Judaism. Although, I myself, identify as a member of the Jewish people, I know little about my culture aside from what is discussed in the Old Testament or followed as a matter of tradition. Contained within the scriptures of Judaism are many hidden mysteries, many of which can only be revealed through a place of deep spiritual truth and validated through faith. I am one who believes the essential teachings of the bible are divinely inspired, but not one who believes the written text is not subject to inaccuracies, obfuscations, or deliberate misinterpretations by organized religions.
You also ask why it is that Jews have been the subject of blame, especially from the elite. It is difficult for me to say, although I know there has been a great deal of research and conjecture on the subject. I do know that it is important that we understand clearly the terminology that is used when the elite tend to fabricate and manipulate reasons to blame the Jews.
For one thing, we must understand the difference and the interconnectedness of Zionism with ethnic Judaism. Zionism as I understand it, is founded on the belief that the Jews in diaspora have a birthright to return to the geopolitical area known today as Israel. This is not only a corruption of the teachings found within the Old Testament, but it is a problem-reaction-solution conundrum that originated among the Ashkenazi Jews and was perpetrated by the elite over the past few centuries. There is no doubt that these people were persecuted by the gentile peoples of the lands in which they inhabited. As I mentioned, it is very easy to assign a scapegoat for already-present social problems that a society experiences, and much more palatable than taking personal responsibility for things that go wrong. Hitler did this very effectively during the Holocaust, where countless Jews were stripped of basic human rights, placed into death camps, and summarily tortured and executed while the local citizens ignored the stench of burning and rotting flesh.
The Jews were not the only victims here. Anyone who strayed from the orthodoxy was targeted (the Roma people – commonly known as “gypsies”, anarchists, Russians, and homosexuals, among others, were targeted), but these events led to the growth of already-present Zionist sentiments among the Jews.
In danger of oversimplifying a very complex situation, we can review the event of the Holocaust within the format of the problem-reaction-solution:
PROBLEM: WWI was a fabricated event ostensibly designed to punish Serbia for supporting the assassination of archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria. Germany participated in this war as an ally of Austria and devoted carte-blanche resources to this war, which had a destabilizing effect on the economy (as wars often do). Following the American entry after the Lusitania event, Germany lost the war. As a result the Second Reich fell, giving way to the Weimar Republic, a transitional government that would ultimately lead to the installation of Adolf Hitler.
REACTION: Political unrest, combined with hyperinflation, led to a chaotic state. The people of Germany were without a leader and Adolf Hitler was being groomed to lead a new socialist movement that would rally the people to blindly uphold a new cause. An unconscious desire was rekindled among the German people to reunite in order to preserve their Nordic bloodlines and ancient social order steeped in pagan ritual. Anyone who was not an adherent to this new political religion was viewed as a dissident. The reaction of the German people was the “final solution”. But, the reaction of the Jews to the “final solution” is what fueled the cause for Zionism.
SOLUTION: The elite who controlled this series of events from their dark shadows opened the stage for the next act. The birth of a new nation-state, known as Israel, was a result of the outcry for reparations by the Jewish people. Centuries of oppression and anti-Jewish sentiment throughout Europe are what enabled the Holocaust to happen. In the Zionist mind, only a Jewish geopolitical entity would prevent something like this from ever happening again, by granting right of return to all those who claim Jewish heritage. But the creation of Israel was in the planning stages long before the Holocaust even happened. The Holocaust was simply a coup-de-grace, an opportunity for the nation-builders to finalize their plans and break ground for new wave of mass immigration.
To back up a few decades, it is interesting read some of the quotes made by Theodor Herzl, the founder of modern Zionism. One in particular was an uncanny foreshadow of events to come:
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| ...the great European war must come. With my watch in hand do I await this terrible moment. After the great European war is ended the peace conference will assemble. We must be ready for that time. (1897) |
In other words, for Mr. Herzl, the ends justify the means. With foreknowledge, he waited patiently for this planned series of events to unfold so his vision of a Zionist state could come to fruition. In 1917, during the closing days of the great war, The Balfour Declaration was put forth, ensuring the future annexation of Palestine with the full support the global Zionist network, from Lord Rothschild and the British Empire to Herzl himself. The tremendous destabilization of the entire middle east, the rise of Islamic fundamentalism, and the catastrophic human losses that we continue to see to this day can be attributed to Zionism in action during the early to mid-20th century. Meanwhile, all of these events can be placed into the format of a continuing problem-reaction-solution chain, where each "solution" gives way to the very next "problem". All the while, countless souls are tortured as the global inter-dimensional trans-temporal elite forces tap further into the sacred energy field of humanity.
Back to Zionism. What we have is essentially a political movement, as I mentioned, which stems from a corrupted teaching. It is a movement that is divorced from the culture of Judaism, which predates the notion of Zionism by several millennia. It is a perversion of the truth by its very nature. The homeland cannot be found in any physical place on the map. The true homeland is the place of stillness within each of our hearts, it is place that never sees violence as a means to an end. Zionism is simply an orthodox political movement that promotes favoritism of one culture over another and fuels the cause for anti-semitism throughout the world. How many lives have been lost for the cause of Zionism? Countless, but probably comparable to those lost for the causes of Communism, Socialism, Capitalism, Catholicism, Imperialism, you name the "-ism"!
Tip, I know I don't have answers to many of your questions about Judaism and its religious underpinnings. Also, most of what I've discussed is more related to modern history than ancient history. I admittedly have gaps in my own knowledge about this subject and I'm sure there is a great deal of mystery that remains unanswered. This I'm sure is a result of limited availability and deliberate obfuscation of ancient texts. I have some awareness about the nature of anti-Jewish sentiment, the political movements associated with Judaism, and my own skepticism about organized religion, but these topics really run tangent to the teachings and origins of Judaism and Christianity and the ancient mythologies that coincide with these religions.
However, while what we know is key, what may be even more important is how we think about these things; the content of our hearts, and the intent of our actions. Right now, I can only say that you seem to be on the right track with your own values and ideas about spirituality and redemption. I hope you continue your own explorations, and I look forward to your findings!
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| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you, Delphius. I have to agree with you that the facts are heavily obscured, whether deliberately (which seems most likely to me), or through ignorance (which certainly plays a role). As I said, I've been looking into these things for many years now, and I haven't found anybody with answers to the questions that I continually ask myself. I have to blame those responsible for the deceit, because I know there are great people out there like you who are doing everything they can. It's a little disheartening, but I'm not one who gets depressed. Whether right or wrong in doing so, I tend to get angry, and that anger fuels my desire to figure this all out. What right do these people have to lie to humankind?
Have you ever heard "Release Me" from Pearl Jam, Ten? That is one of the most amazing songs I've ever heard. A bit off the subject, perhaps, but the message inspires me. I'll never give up... I need to be free, I need to know the truth.
A timeline of antisemitism
Above is a link to some historical examples of antisemitism. It is a ridiculously long list. Such a track record seriously raises my suspicions. Why do they do it? What have the Jews ever done to deserve it? That last question I asked   is actually a good one that needs more attention from me. I'm going to dedicate tonight to finding some clues on that one.
Thanks again, Delphius. I post here because you and Noah are reasonable, respectful people, and you guys help me figure things out because you're capable of carrying on an honest, thoughtful conversation. Real conversation is a bit hard to come by these days...
Peace,
Tip
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:14 am Post subject: |
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A great timeline, Tip, on the experience of persecution which is seemingly a central part of Jewish existence. ...and I am a big fan of Pearl Jam! |
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